Friday Steynquote: Tragedy, “Bush’s War”, Invading Pakistan

Steyn SuitDP: “…I just wanted to start out by asking you about your reflections on the horrible tragedy that we’re learning about in Minneapolis.”

MS: “Well, you know, I think it’s a sad fact of life that this is something one is expected to have an opinion on. I remember when the tsunami struck, I was astonished within 48 hours at getting kind of hate mail from people who were complaining that I hadn’t taken a political position on the tsunami yet. And something similar, I think, has happened with this Minneapolis bridge, where everyone kind of jumps in and starts making generalizations either about it’s because we’re spending so much money in Iraq and Afghanistan that we’re not spending enough money on American infrastructure and all the rest of it. It’s way too early for that kind of thing. What has happened is a horrible tragedy. There are lots of places in the world where bridges collapse not routinely, but it’s not unexpected. It is rare in America, which I think testifies to the general sturdiness of American infrastructure. And when it does happen, I think the important thing is to mourn and sympathize with those who’ve been genuinely bereaved and those who are still waiting for news. This kind of rush to politicize everything, I think, is kind of sick and a little decadent, to be honest.

…(Call Dropped)…

I was just really making a simple point that I think common decency requires us to put some of the hyper-politicization on hold. You know, the idea that this is Bush’s fault, or the Governor’s fault, or any of this kind of stuff is just idiotic and insulting to the dead.

I whole-heartedly agree. Blaming the Minnesota bridge collapse on President Bush’s “warmongering” is absolutely despicable and ludicrous. These people should be ashamed and repudiated. The same can be said for the insensitive jerks in the media who were running specials on gun control in the midst of their reporting on the Virginia Tech massacre. This practice is vile and reveals a lack of compassion and good judgment on behalf of the offenders.

Idiots Insulting the Dead:

And people wonder why Air America’s Ratings are lying at the bottom of the free market sewer?


Back to Mark Steyn…

“DP: Do you think that there may be a tide turning a little bit in the media about how the surge is going?

MS: Well you know, I think it’s easy for us to lapse into fatalism. Fatalism is the curse of much of the Arab world, that if you look at, if you talk to people there, they often think that everything is preordained. And a lot of our discussion on the war takes place like that, that whether or not it was a good decision to go to war in March of 2003, the idea that its somehow got a pre-designated ending, and America can do nothing about that, is completely idiotic. America can change…

…(Call Dropped (must be Cingular))…

…I was just talking about on the war that I think all wars start off, you start badly, you learn your plan isn’t right, you adapt the plan, and how swiftly you adapt the plan is really the difference between victory and defeat.

DP: Absolutely. Where do you think the Democrats are at this point? I mean, do you think that they’re in a position, especially in the Senate, where they kind of have to begrudgingly give Petraeus until the September report?

MS: Well I think politically, they’re over-invested in defeat, and I think it’s just grossly irresponsible, because the fact of the matter is there’s a real country called Iraq, thousands of miles away, where 25 million people live, and what is at issue there is that the future of those 25 million people, and the future of American credibility in the world. And if you weigh that against you know, whether this or that piece of news is good news for the Democratic Party politically in Washington, I know which I think is the real issue, and I know which I think is the peripheral issue, and I think the Democrats just need to grow up about this. You know, you can save the arguments for the history book. But when you’re in the war, the best thing to do is just get on with it and win it, and not think that this can be portrayed as Bush’s war. It’s America’s war. And it will be a defeat if it’s lost, not for Bush, but for the United States of America.

DP: Well, speaking of Democrats that need to grow up, thirty seconds, Mark Steyn, Barack Obama wants to go in and invade Pakistan?

MS: Yeah, well I think that’s just, you know, the Democrats are always in favor of the war you’re not fighting. If someone was to say, oh, the 3rd Infantry Division go in tomorrow, he’d be hailing that as the new quagmire. The fact of the matter is that the Pakistani tribal lands are incredibly difficult areas. The idea that you could send either huge numbers of American troops or even special forces in there to operate, I think, is completely, I think is completely idiotic. It would cause…Pakistan has 120 million people who by and large are hostile to the United States. Getting them dancing up and down in the streets shouting death to the Great Satan is not a good idea.”

Full interview

(emph, mine.)

[ht: Steynonline, HH]


Sack of Crap Closes N.D. Pool

…further pool related news.

The largest pool in the state’s largest city was shut down on one of the hottest days of the year after vandals tossed a large bag of fecal matter into the water.

A swim team noticed the problem at the Island Park pool when they arrived to practice on Wednesday morning, park district officials said. The bag likely contained dog or other animal waste, officials said.

Dave Klundt, assistant director of recreation, said the vandals “may think it’s a funny prank, but they don’t understand they’re displacing a lot of people on a hot day.”

The temperature had reached 95 degrees on Wednesday afternoon.

Klundt said workers used 42 gallons of a chemical and water solution to disinfect the pool. The process takes 12 to 18 hours, he said.

About 750 people visited the Island Park pool on Monday, parks district officials said. Three other public pools in the city have been at or near capacity this week.

Sewage pool

Gordon Smith as Captain Douche

Yah Oregon! Land of political dummies. Gorden Smith, from the floor the other day:

What the crap does he think he’s talking about? Who do you think America is fighting in Iraq? Have you heard the report from General Petraeus yet? What about reading this? Or this or this?

This bull-crap is obviously just a pathetic attempt to get re-elected.

Here’s my sentiments I fired off yesterday to El Capitán Douche de la Caca:

I’m sorry Mr. Smith, but I simply cannot support someone who refuses to listen to the advice of our military generals. Your opinion of the state of the affairs in Iraq should be derived from the information that you gather from their perspectives.

You state, “Iraq’s peace is one they must win on their own; we cannot win it for them. Our might should be focused on stopping terrorists who are plotting to bring harm to the United States.”

In part, I agree with you. Ultimately, Iraq must win their own peace. However, it would be foolish of us to abandon them when they have requested our aid. Furthermore – Iraq is central in a region of nations hostile towards its success. Do you think that if America withdraws its support, Iran and Syria will just abandon their meddling in Iraq? Do you not realize that this whole struggle is a regional conflict?

(Perhaps you have not had a chance to read The Looming Tower. If so, please read this book.)

What do you think prematurely leaving Iraq will accomplish? I can tell you for certain that any shred of America credibility will go straight into the trash. If the fledgling Iraqi government requires our help to promote the cause of liberty, then it is our duty, as the true bastion of freedom and strength in this world to provide that aid. Or do you think this a sacrifice too great? Or perhaps, a task simply unworthy of America? Have you really become that callous towards the Iraqi’s plight?

Consider this quote from Abu Ali, a resistance movement leader, fighting against al-Qaida in Iraq:

“I ask one thing, AFTER the Iraqi Army and Police take hold and the security forces ARE READY, we want a schedule for the leaving of the American forces.”

-Quote courtesy of Michael Yon (

Clearly, Ali understands the situation as he has to battle al-Qaida daily from his homeland. People who are serious about this war, talk about exiting AFTER the Iraqi’s are ready.

If you support the situation in Darfur – then go ahead and support the premature withdrawal of our forces in Iraq–because that is exactly what you are going to get in Iraq if we leave before their forces are ready to take over.

I know this war is unpopular, and some days the results are disheartening. This does not mean that we are loosing. In fact – it seems clear to me that the only way for us to loose this conflict, is to choose to – as you have suggested. This is not acceptable. We must win this conflict – whatever the cost. Giving up will most certainly be counted as a victory by al-Qaida, and the governments of Iran and Syria. America will be seen by the world to be a Paper Tiger as Bin Laden suggested. Do you think Iran will take us seriously after that? It is obvious that Iran already believes this as they continue to pursue nuclear weapons despite our threats. Again, If we bail in Iraq, Why would Iran take our threats seriously?

As the saying goes, “When the going gets tough, the tough get going”. The tough don’t start spouting platitudes about “exit strategies,” and “Hail Mary passes.” Mr. Smith, It’s time to “put on the pants” on this issue. Yes, it may hurt your poll numbers – but the cause of freedom in the world, especially for the war ravaged middle east, is so much bigger than some silly election in Oregon. History will revere those who sacrificed the most for the sake of liberty (think WWII)- and it will despise those who were more concerned with self interest.

Unfortunately, I simply cannot support you until you show evidence of real serious thinking on this matter.

PS: And stop being such a pompous douche-bag.

Furthermore – if we pull-out too soon, and there is an all out massacre in Iraq (something nearly everyone agrees upon), then what are you going to run on Gordon?


Time Magazine Sinks To New Low

I know – you must be shocked…
Strap yourself in and get a load of this bull. First – the headline:

Romney’s Cruel Canine Vacation

…and no – this is not a story from Mad Magazine or The Onion. Here’s the intro to the article talking about “the incident” in 19 FREEKING 83!!

The reporter intended the anecdote that opened part four of the Boston Globe’s profile of Mitt Romney to illustrate, as the story said, “emotion-free crisis management”: Father deals with minor — but gross — incident during a 1983 family vacation, and saves the day. But the details of the event are more than unseemly — they may, in fact, be illegal.

The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus’s rather visceral protest.

Waste Your Time Read Article

Later in the article, writer Ana Marie Cox, follows a quote from PETA – (who state that, “the dog was, basically, being tortured,”) with a tie in to Romney’s stance on interrogation techniques in regard to terrorists.


This story is so far reaching, so absolutely absurd…I don’t even know what to say. Cox, as well as the pathetic editorial staff at Time, should be ashamed even for considering publishing this garbage. If I had to dig all the way back to 1983, to someone’s family vacation – just so I could write a desperate flailing drive-by hit-piece article like this one – I would be demoralized.

Also, I would be especially embarrassed to include anything from PETA as a serious qoute. PETA’s beliefs can hardly be grounded on any remote shard of rational thought. Obviously – they haven’t spent one iota of brain power observing nature, or they would have discovered that in the wild, animals kill each other constantly. (and in brutal “inhumane” ways). As a side, If they are so concerned with animals – they should do us all a favor and leave civilization themselves and go try to survive in the wilderness. Oh – and they should have to do it completely butt naked, without tools or survival training. (more about PETA to come on WTC…)

And where would you expect an article with this caliber of stupidity? Try the front page top 6 stories on Time’s website!

Cruel Vacation

This article is a disgrace to journalism and if I was the manager at Time Magazine, I would fire Ms. Cox on the spot just for putting forth the effort. But then again, given Time’s track record – they probably commissioned it. Allah at Hot Air has it exactly right.

“Looks like they save the really big scoops for their most esteemed reporters.”

Time Magazine deserves “the sewage treatment” for this self-deprecating crock.

Sewage Time

Still think the media is un-biased?