Socialism’s conflict with Liberty

Earlier I mentioned that I would be returning to the discussion over Socialism and its direct conflict with individual liberty. Yesterday I ran across some excellent audio that discusses the concepts of Liberty and Socialism and clarifies them in regards to the platforms of the current Liberal and Conservative philosophies.

I believe that these are crucial issues that must be understood as we are facing maddeningly high oil prices, steep medical bills, and national elections. It is critical for voters to understand that if they are voting for socialized solutions to these problems, ultimately they are voting for massive increases in governmental power and devastating reductions in individual liberty.

I have chopped up a great 6 part audio series from the Mark Levin show where he explains with great clarity Socialism and it’s conflict with the fragile American system which was originally designed to encourage liberty.

Before you listen, here is a small disclaimer. I want to point out here that I do not think people pushing socialized ideas are evil. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and many people of the left are pushing for socialized medical systems. I do not believe that they are doing this out of evil intent. Heck, when I had a much more liberal understanding of politics (most of my life up and through college), I used to think Socialism wasn’t that big of a deal. I wasn’t evil for believing that way, and neither are you if you happen to think nationalizing health care is a great idea.

What I didn’t understand, and I urge you to at least consider, was that socialism ultimately cannot coexist with liberty.

So without further ado – here’s the audio. It’s a bit of a tour-de-force of the conservative viewpoint of the American Government. Part of it swings around to talk about the oil companies because they happened to be in the news that day. However, the oil situation is applicable here as many are advocating more governmental meddling, even complete state control. I guarantee that you will not hear these ideas on TV, in anything from Hollywood, or even school for the most part. I have outlined some of the points mentioned in each clip below and please feel free to leave comments. I am not asking you to agree, only to consider the ideas presented. Remember that clarity is far more important here than agreement.

  • Freedom (or liberty) is always competing with tyranny.
  • Ann Rand: “Socialism is the doctrine that man has no right to exist for his own sake. That his life and his work do not belong to him, but belong to society. That the only justification of his existence is his service to society. And that society may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to it’s own tribal collective good.”
  • The essential characteristic of socialism is the denial of individual property rights. – In other words, all things belong to the collective society – also known as The State.
  • Can human rights exist without property rights?
  • Tyranny doesn’t come at once in a democracy – it comes in pieces. (The idea that bad things come first as small “friendly” ideas wrapped up as: the children, the elderly, the environment, health care, etc.)
  • I want to point out here that Conservatism (not to be confused with “The Republican Party”) is about taking power away from the state and giving it to individuals, essentially – localizing it. This is the opposite of socialism.
  • Republicans, for the most part – aren’t really doing anything to help the situation.
  • The left creates enemies of the state, such as oil companies and Halliburton. But most people don’t know anything about these companies and how they do business, let alone how many jobs they provide.
  • Sen. Obama somehow gets to decide what’s appropriate for people to discuss about him and his presidential campaign. Here’s the current list of people/topics concerning Barack Obama that he says are “Distractions” and we shouldn’t be concerned about: Tony Rezko, William Ayers (American born terrorist, formerly part of the Weather Underground), Bernadine Dorn (Ayers wife), Jeremiah Wright (Sen. Obama’s pastor of 20 years – because apparently, Obama wasn’t at church on God Damn America Sunday, or The Government Created AIDS to Kill Black People Sunday, etc. and he had no idea that Wright held these views) Michelle Obama (Barack’s wife who we aren’t suppose to criticize even though she gives stump speeches all the time and has been a central force in his campaign).
  • The constitution is a set of guild lines so that the federal government would nurture individual liberty and not hinder it.
  • The Government’s villain of the day – Oil companies. But most people don’t realize how much control the government already has of the oil companies.
  • We shouldn’t be relying on the government to provide for our needs.

The rest of the world is increasing supplies, looking for more sources or oil – and we are not. The main argument I hear is that we should be looking for alternative sources of energy. That’s a nice thought – except that we will need oil to find those alternatives!

Currently – our entire economy revolves around oil. We cannot just abandon it in search of some magical futuristic (currently non-existent) form of energy. And don’t even get me started talking about Nuclear energy. Guess what – the environmentalist have blocked that idea too with their junk science. Read this article my buddy from work sent me: Inconvenient Truths: Get Ready to Re-think What it Means to Be Green. In particular this bit on Nuclear Power.

The last segment addresses the question of whether “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness” includes things like health-care, etc. This bit is especially important as it outlines the idea that the government is so disconnected from the individual that it cannot effectively provide these services.

I hope that this post has been helpful in illuminating some of the problems with the idea of Socialism.

I have written a more extensive series on Socialism called: Why Reject Socialism. You can read it over at Appeal To Heaven.

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3 Responses to “Socialism’s conflict with Liberty”

  1. Jennifer Says:

    “Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
    ‘Pursuit’ is a very important word here. In no way are we promised happiness, only the right to strive towards it. There are no guarantees that anything will ever be handed to us.

  2. Yvette Says:

    The problem is that personal freedom is the only real freedom. Beyond personal freedom (choices which only affect yourself, like getting your hair cut), you’re messing with the freedoms of others. If you want to make a choice and it affects someone else, their freedom, wants, and needs should come into question is well. Freedom does not mean the freedom to wantonly kill, which is the idea that you seem to have.

    Freedom DOES, however, mean having your vote actually mean something in the government. Freedom is not having the wealthy be more important and having more push and pull in government than the average person who is working the jobs that make America work. Freedom is not being coerced into choices because of economic and financial forces. Life, liberty, and the ability to pursue happiness–aren’t these the values America was founded on? Yet this has been twisted into better life for the wealthy, freedom for the wealthy only, and no ability to pursue happiness for the poor.

    What kind of freedom is there when the ability to exploit workers and make a quick buck gives you more rights than the middle and lower class? What kind of freedom is there when you have to spend all of your money on health care? What kind of freedom is there when the child of a poor parent doesn’t get anything near the opportunities and privileges in education, happiness, healthcare, etc? If the child of a CEO has far more starting out than the child of a janitor, that is NOT the equality or freedom promised in the Constitution.

  3. Eugene Says:

    Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.


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